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Rules Proposal 26.2: Franchise Declaration Day and Beer Coupons |
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Oscar Goldman
Headbanger
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Posted - 6/9/2023 11:06:54 AM |
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Rules Proposal 26.2: Franchise Declaration Day and Beer Coupons
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Our big declaration days are racing towards us and will be here before we know it. Football is here!
Every August 15th, it seems that there are teams which have not properly declared their franchise players on time. Last year, there were three (3) teams that fell into this category.
While this may appear to be a trivial thing because said teams do get their franchise declarations in at some point, this undermines the idea that declarations need to be simultaneous and without any prior knowledge of what other teams have chosen for their keepers. Knowing the official landscape has the possibility of offering an unfair advantage to the teams which do not abide by the rules.
In addition, this lack of participation on what is really the biggest Ragnarok day of the summer is baffling. It's anticlimactic for everyone who did participate and it's also a pain in the butt to have to nag people and manually follow up whenever said teams feel like getting around to participating.
It is hereby proposed that if any team does not have their franchise declarations made on their team page by August 15 at 12:00am (the night of August 14), they shall be penalized as follows:
One BEER COUPON will be given to each other team that properly did submit their franchise declarations on time. This is a limited coupon that can only be redeemed by the owner of the coupon, to have the dink retrieve a drink for the owner of the coupon and no one else. That drink must be retrieved in good faith and cannot be sabotaged in any manner.
Note that this is different than the ability of the Ragnarok Champion to request beer runs from the Ragnarok Loser at any time, for any person.
For example, if Gustafson once again fails to post his franchise declarations on time and everyone else abided by the rules, then all other 11 owners will have one Beer Coupon for their own redemption at any time. That means that he would be doing 11 beer runs throughout the weekend.
Hopefully these beer runs of shame will solve the issue of missing franchise declarations when our deadline is reached.
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Posted - 6/10/2023 2:52:26 PM |
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Addendum
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| Their FP is declared by the Wheel of Death. Record the spinning of the wheel (a la division selections in Aurora) with all of their players from last year. The wheel chooses their franchise and they do not get to have a rookie rule. That seems like a good way to prevent late declarations. Yeah? |
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Posted - 6/19/2023 10:25:55 AM |
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Savage Addendum
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I'm guessing this was jokey in nature because we don't want to seriously undermine competitive balance for what is a near misdemeanor offense. That being said, I do think a little more consequence may be appropriate because there are draft weekends where not everyone is present. How can Gustafson be sanctioned for his favorite offense if no one can redeem their Beer Coupons from him on draft weekend?
Therefore, I'm also proposing that there is also a 5MB fine for not putting in your franchise player selections on time. Beer Coupons and 5% of your FAAB budget has enough bite for owners to take it seriously, but won't harm our competitive balance. Bottom line: Put your franchise picks in on time! |
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Tough
Football Freak
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Posted - 6/19/2023 10:56:08 AM |
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Jokey yes.
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But it would never be imposed because everyone will dclare on time.
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Posted - 6/25/2023 1:14:36 PM |
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Agreed on FAAB fine for late declaration
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I would've said 25 MB given how frequently this happens.
I'm not against formalizing some kind of backup plan, like emailing in a 'Don't Open Til Christmas' message ahead of time with my picks in them, just in case there's a user error when placing the standard declaration online. I'm willing to forgive a person trying to dclare on time and messing up, but not willing to forgive a person forgetting to declare. Know what I mean?
Wheel of Death is an amazing idea, by the way, and there's got to a be a good use for it somewhere in Ragnarok. |
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Posted - 6/25/2023 4:13:27 PM |
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What about an increase for repeat offenders
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Maybe have the penalty go up 5MB for each offense after the first. If we really want to be savage, we could have the penalty double for repeat offenses (5, 10, 20, 40, 80).
If we want to go the wheel of death route, we could appeal to the old school gamers in the league and use a D20 of Death since there are 20 spots on each roster.
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Head of Scouting
Gjallarhorn player
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Posted - 6/26/2023 9:56:08 AM |
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Die of death?
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| A little redundant, gets the point across and sounds badass! |
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Posted - 6/26/2023 11:15:08 AM |
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Reminds me of my favorite Motörhead song
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https://youtu.be/LZ5fIKmn1ok
Also, dice are cool so anyway to incorporate that into anything I am in favor of. |
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Tough
Football Freak
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Posted - 6/28/2023 4:29:58 PM |
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Still seems fuzzy
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So do we need some kind of official vote before FP are declared? And I mean something specific to vote on. I’m down with a die, but are we saying that number is the Megabucks lost, or the player in that position IS your default FP (draft well my friend…). Not sure how that’s different than the Wheel of Death, though. Or are we just passive aggressively pointing a finger and shaming specific owners?
Happy end of June. 🍻
Football! |
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Posted - 6/30/2023 8:17:13 AM |
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Official league vote is here via a ballot box
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Here are the details that we are voting upon:
"It is hereby proposed that if any team does not have their franchise declarations made on their team page by August 15 at 12:00am (the night of August 14), they shall be penalized as follows:
One BEER COUPON will be given to each other team that properly did submit their franchise declarations on time. This is a limited coupon that can only be redeemed by the owner of the coupon, to have the dink retrieve a drink for the owner of the coupon and no one else. That drink must be retrieved in good faith and cannot be sabotaged in any manner. These Beer Coupons never expire and can be redeemed at any venue where both owners are present.
In addition, a penalty of 5MB will be deducted from their 100MB deposit that takes place at the start of the regular season. This amount increases by another 5MB for each offense in following years. For example, if Team A doesn't put in their franchise player on time in 2023 they will incur a 5MB penalty. If the same Team A doesn't put in their franchise player on time in 2025, they will incur a 10MB penalty. There will be a four year expiration for calculating penalties (current year included): If Team B misses 2023 and 2025 and 2027, they will only have a 10MB penalty because the 2023 season will have dropped off (2027, 2026, 2025, and 2024 are the only considered seasons).
Everyone can confirm ahead of time that their selections are made on their team homepage. For redundancy, anyone is also welcome to email the commish with their selections ahead of time. If so, please put "TOP SECRET FRANCHISE DECLARATIONS" in the subject line in order to ensure that this email is only opened if needed and would be done once the deadline has passed."
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Posted - 7/5/2023 12:59:06 AM |
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rules proposal 2 cents.
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| This idea came about over a conversation about coaches not getting their draft order put in and the default being the best pick. I said those with picks in are gone through first, then best available for the rest. Keith said this was too harsh and suggested beer tokens. After our discussion, I tend to agree that this may be too harsh. Then our conversation turned to franchise player picks and not getting them in on time. Again, beer tolkens were used as an example. I explained that I look forward to seeing where people pick and felt it was not harsh enough. I said that an apology would be perfect. As for the Mega Bucks, I would say no, the loss of mega bucks could easily hurt other teams by boosting the two teams within their division. Again, I suggest when the token is turned in the coach needs to apologize for the infraction. A night of 11 apologies will linger longer than 5 MB's and would not have any in season effects. |
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Nathaniel Hornblower
Scout
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Posted - 7/12/2023 8:57:07 PM |
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Finally chiming in
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| Sorry for the delay. Here's my take on it. Yes, there should be some sort of punishment, but I feel like having to get drinks for everyone feels like not a severe enough punishment. I think if someone misses the deadline, everyone who didn't gets a token (multiples if there's more than one offender) and those tokens can be redeemed to have that person do a shot or chug a beer. This would make a real punishment and cause the offender to potentially do their drafting incredibly shitfaced. Just me, but that feels like it's actual punishment rather than being beer bitch 11 times (which we will get from Kent drafting retired players anyway) |
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Coach Cowher Tomlin
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Posted - 7/13/2023 6:53:32 AM |
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Just you wait
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| I am Kentfident Big Ben will make a comeback! |
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Coach Cowher Tomlin
Football Freak
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Posted - 7/15/2023 5:35:38 AM |
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What did I do this time?
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| I see I have been penalized and have no draft slot. I take it back. The Vikings and the Lions will be awesome this year! |
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Posted - 7/15/2023 11:14:28 AM |
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Kent picked slot #6 four times
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| I've manually fixed this.... I think they are officially set now? |
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Coach Cowher Tomlin
Football Freak
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Posted - 7/15/2023 1:41:26 PM |
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Soooooo.....
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| How come I still got #7 after picking #6 four times? This thing is rigged. I call shenanigans! |
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Posted - 7/16/2023 6:12:10 AM |
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You should have just picked #1 four times
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| That's a way better pick! |
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Posted - 8/4/2023 1:53:15 PM |
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Franchise Declaration rule needs to be codified
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After further discussion, how about this for the rule (modifications in bold):
"It is hereby proposed that if any team does not have their franchise declarations made on their team page by August 15 at 12:00am (the night of August 14), they shall be penalized as follows:
One BEER COUPON will be given to each other team that properly did submit their franchise declarations on time. This is a limited coupon that can only be redeemed by the owner of the coupon, to have the dink retrieve a drink for the owner of the coupon and no one else. When delivering the drink, a sincere verbal apology must also be given. That drink must be retrieved in good faith and cannot be sabotaged in any manner. These Beer Coupons never expire and can be redeemed at any venue where both owners are present.
In addition, a penalty of 5MB 2MB will be deducted from their 100MB deposit that takes place at the start of the regular season. This amount increases by another 5MB 2MB for each offense in following years. For example, if Team A doesn't put in their franchise player on time in 2023 they will incur a 2MB penalty. If the same Team A doesn't put in their franchise player on time in 2025, they will incur a 4MB penalty. There will be a four year expiration for calculating penalties (current year included): If Team B misses 2023 and 2025 and 2027, they will only have a 4MB penalty because the 2023 season will have dropped off (2027, 2026, 2025, and 2024 are the only considered seasons).
Everyone can confirm ahead of time that their selections are made on their team homepage. For redundancy, anyone is also welcome to email the commish with their selections ahead of time. If so, please put "TOP SECRET FRANCHISE DECLARATIONS" in the subject line in order to ensure that this email is only opened if needed and would be done once the deadline has passed." |
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phattyDat
Tape Junkie
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Posted - 8/4/2023 4:14:41 PM |
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I am an offender...
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| And I approve of this message. |
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Vixens
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Posted - 8/6/2023 8:50:13 AM |
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Sounds fair
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| As someone who is currently without a very good FP option, I still think it is important to make your pick in a timely fashion, no matter how pathetic it is. Cooper Kupp? Really? *Sigh* |
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Posted - 8/9/2023 2:16:15 PM |
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Rules Proposal 26.2: Franchise Declaration Day and Beer Coupons PASSES
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| This will be codified in the official Rules Book. |
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