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    Week 1 stats rerain

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    Metalhead


    Headbanger

    3322 posts
    Posted - 9/23/2011 2:54:43 PM
    Week 1 stats and scores were updated
    and it looks like it resulted in a tie between The Big Apple and the Dixie Doo Dads. anyone notice any errors in that game's scoring?
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    Beetlejuice

    Assistant Coach

    147 posts
    Fu: 92.54
    Posted - 9/23/2011 5:11:25 PM
    Bears D
    Actually Bears D is incorrect for Big Apple. Bears had 2 Fum. Recs, 1 Int for a TD, 5 sacks, and held to 12 points.

    Thats...4+2+6+5+3=20, Big Apple should have 1 more point.
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    The Big Apple
    Towel Boy

    31 posts
    Fu: 21.80
    Posted - 9/24/2011 5:53:48 AM
    Bears DST
    Yeah, I should have one more point. This is a huge difference between a win and a tie. Please re-count these hanging chads. Please correct.
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    Metalhead


    Headbanger

    3322 posts
    Fu: 124.22
    Posted - 9/24/2011 12:29:52 PM
    thanks guys!
    all spiffy now
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    The Big Apple
    Towel Boy

    31 posts
    Fu: 21.80
    Posted - 9/24/2011 1:21:39 PM
    Bears DST
    Thanks!
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    Doo Daddy


    Long Snapper

    259 posts
    Fu: 100.48
    Posted - 9/24/2011 4:27:28 PM
    Still some issues but spell it out for me.
    First of all the Doo Dads D should have only scored 6 pts not 8 as they don't get 2 pts for an interception plus 6 for the interception return for a touchdown (according to the most awesome Customized Football powers that be [really]). That puts the Daddy's total at 89. In the same sense the Big Apple should not get 4 pts for 2 fumble recoveries plus 6 for one being run back - they should get 2+6=8 +2 for an interception =10 +3 for held to 12 = 13. The next issue is that NFL.com lists the bears total sacks at 5 but only credits 2 to Melton, 1 to Peppers and 1 to Okoye which = 4. USA Today has the same stats and the only place I could find an extra sack was on the Bears website which credited Peppers with 2 not 1 but NFL.com is our stats bible - right? If there were only 4 sacks then 13+4=17 which puts the Apples pt total also at 89 as we currently have their D listed with 25 pts and 25-17= 8 pts less than the 97 currently listed. Not really caring about the record so much as just trying to get a handle on team D as I've always played IDPs. I'm also trying to increase my FU which I understand not only increases with number of posts but also with their length. Let me know if I'm miscalculating somehow.
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    Doo Daddy


    Long Snapper

    259 posts
    Fu: 100.48
    Posted - 9/24/2011 6:19:03 PM
    Pointless...
    ...I'm sure. This is because I probably have something else wrong but as far as the 5 sacks goes I wonder if the NFL didn't update Peppers sack total at some point later in the week as they sometimes do but failed to update the team total as well. The NFL changing player stats during the week happens every so often and has impacted a few fantasy games that I've been a part of over the last 17 years. Maybe this is a moot (which actually means 'debatable' but is misused by everyone including me) point, but I'd like to get the point totals right at least. Anyone have a clue?

    PS Another post = more FU.
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    Green Faerie

    Pimp Hand

    365 posts
    Fu: 99.10
    Posted - 9/24/2011 8:48:00 PM
    Icky
    Math, defense calculations and football FU points!
    :)
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    Doo Daddy


    Long Snapper

    259 posts
    Fu: 100.48
    Posted - 9/25/2011 4:58:50 AM
    Educated
    Thanks Keith - for showing me the error of my ways. The Chicago D actually held Atlanta to 6 pts as the other 6 of Atlanta's pts came off a Cutler pick 6. Makes too much sense. The only question I still have is do we both get an extra 2 pts for the fumble/intereption plus the TD? Just for future reference and to keep the point totals correct. And sorry to all for clogging up the airwaves, I'll keep my future scoring questions to the report stat error section. Good luck to everyone this week.
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    Metalhead


    Headbanger

    3322 posts
    Fu: 124.22
    Posted - 9/25/2011 5:38:40 AM
    defense clarifications
    just a couple of nuances:

    a) for Points Held, we don't penalize DF/ST's for points that were scored when they were off of the field. for example, an interception returned for a touchdown does not count towards points held, since the DF/ST was not on the field.

    b) a DF/ST takeaway that results in a TD is indeed an 8-point play. they get full credit for both the turnover as well as the score.
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    Green Faerie

    Pimp Hand

    365 posts
    Fu: 99.10
    Posted - 9/25/2011 7:22:27 AM
    Please
    Do not apologize for asking these scoring questions here. This conversation has been very educational. I have never known how the defense was scored but now I might be able to figure it out!

    And besides, you have your Fu to think of! Believe me, I do all I can to up my fu!

    Jax
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    Beetlejuice

    Assistant Coach

    147 posts
    Fu: 92.54
    Posted - 9/25/2011 9:00:40 AM
    defense clarifications
    If that is the case, then the Bears D should actually get an additional 4 points since going from 12 points held as I thought to 6 points held.
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    Metalhead


    Headbanger

    3322 posts
    Fu: 124.22
    Posted - 9/25/2011 9:25:52 AM
    24 points is the result? and 96-91?
    that is, if the Bears really have 5 sacks. it's surprising how often that statistics get revised a few days after the games are over. for example, in this past week WR Nicks got credited with an additional catch and 23 yards, giving another 3 fantasy points to Beetlejuice. we all have to keep an eye out for these events and i'm glad that we all recognize that stats are a living breathing set of values. and in the end, it says "Stats are stats are stats" in the rulebook. or at least it should say it.

    anyways, here's the breakdown as it stands with 5 sacks credited:

    pts : stat
    5 : 5 sacks
    2 : 1 interception
    4 : 2 fumbles recovered
    6 : 1 fumble return for a TD
    7 : 6 Points Held (12 points on scoreboard, less 6 for the Pick-6 TD because the DF/ST was not on the field; normally a 7pt credit, the Falcons' net result was 6 points scored because they did not kick a PAT)
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    24 Total

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