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Point system and playoffs |
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Flayers
Scout
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Posted - 11/1/2008 6:03:49 PM |
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Point system and playoffs
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In our league, what is a better record: 12-3 or 11-2?
The reason I ask is that I don’t think we have addressed this in the rules, and I want to avoid any last-minute controversy when it comes time to determine the playoff teams and seedings.
Perhaps overall record should be determined by (win points) - losses?
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Posted - 11/2/2008 7:28:23 AM |
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Wins
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I think it should be by number of wins, forget the losses. I don't want to have to figure out winning percentages.
ps Whiskey Ducks suck. |
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Posted - 11/2/2008 12:06:08 PM |
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Free Agency
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| This kind of goes with the records issue, the other way. What is a worse record 7-4 .636, or 7-5 .583. The reason I ask is that free agency if bids are tied it goes to the team with the worse record. 10/29 three teams bided on Ted Ginn Jr. one team was 12-2 the two others were 7-4 and 7-5. The bids were all the same and the player went to the 7-4 team and not the 7-5. For this player I'm not upset, but how does it work in the future. |
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Time Served
Football Freak
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Posted - 11/2/2008 8:48:09 PM |
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Victory Points are a sign of the apocalypse
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| Ma ma says, Victory Points are the Devil |
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Village Idiots
Towel Boy
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Posted - 11/3/2008 12:03:30 AM |
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next year
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In the FFOC league I'm in, you get a win for the head-to-head and a win for the top half of the league, just like this one. BUT, in that league you get a loss for being in the bottom half of the league. Everyone essentially plays 2 games per week instead of one with a bonus.
It's too late for that now, but this would fix our problem for next year.
After week 8, it was possible to have 16 decisions. If we count wins instead of win%, that would assume that you have losses for the difference (16 minus your teams decisions).
Whatever the commish thinks is the best way is good for me.
I do like having the victory points for the reasons that Keith put them in this league.
Bob |
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Flayers
Scout
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Posted - 11/3/2008 11:15:50 PM |
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Herein lies the problem
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Here is another hypothetical for your consideration.
T1 is now 15-2. T2 is now 11-5.
Over the last 4 games, T1 goes 2-2 (2 wins, 0 bonus, 2 losses) and T2 goes 7-1 (3 wins, 4 bonus, 1 loss).
T1 is then 17-4 and T2 is then 18-6.
Who has the better record? Who gets the playoff spot?
Solution 1: Total wins
T2 wins 18 vs 17
Solution 2: Wins-losses
T1 wins 13 vs 12
We need to resolve this now. This will happen to 2 or more teams with high probability.
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Flayers
Scout
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Posted - 11/4/2008 4:48:53 PM |
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Victory/Defeat points
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Just for kicks, I went ahead and recomputed the records using Bob's formula, where an extra win is awarded for finishing in the top six and an extra loss is given for finishing in the bottom six each week.
Here are the results:
Laggards
Flayers 15 3
Vultures 10 8*
Wiseguys 9 9
Cellblock 6 12
Sluggards
Idiots 14 4
Dutchmen 6 12*
Drinking Team 7 11
Time Served 1 17
Dawdlers
Illuminati 14 4
Crunchies 11 7
Shockers 9 9
Whiskey Ducks 6 12
*Note that all win points are the same as they are now, except for Dutchmen and Vultures. I have them tieing for 6th in weeks 4 and 7 (coincidentally both with Wiseguys) and have them losing the IDP tie-break, and hence getting a loss point instead of a win point. Currently, we have 7 victory points being handed out in weeks 4 and 7.
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Masochistic toys
Football Freak
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Posted - 11/6/2008 10:30:51 PM |
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This is Bullshit
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| My record is bad enough adding more losses on it only goes to making it look worse. What are you trying to do Have Al Davis fire me! |
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