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Skullsplitters
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Posted - 12/12/2006 12:38:12 PM |
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My kingdom for 5 points
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| You know I'm trying to repeat history, Matt |
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Bunch
Assistant Coach
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Posted - 12/13/2006 5:47:16 PM |
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Bunch taking pride in ending The Streak.
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| Apparently since the Splitters didn't make the playoffs, there will be no playoffs this year. Merry Christmas. |
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Maulers
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Posted - 12/14/2006 1:00:24 AM |
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By my count the Splitters are in
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| He should have 83 points for my game against him. His kicker should have 10 points, not 3. That would give him enough to beat you in overall points for the year. Sorry, Matt. |
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Bunch
Assistant Coach
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Posted - 12/14/2006 1:24:11 AM |
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Sorry, Kent.
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| My kicker was also shorted by 4 points, putting me in the playoffs by 2 points. Thanks for checking the stats, though. You've been a huge help. Now if somebody would just help you. |
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Maulers
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Posted - 12/14/2006 6:47:16 AM |
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You are welcome
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| The only reason I knew Keith's stats was because he and I played each other in the last game. If I were you, I'd be going back and looking at every week, because ya know Keith is gonna try to weasel his way into the play-offs like last year. Good luck and Happy Holidays! |
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Posted - 12/14/2006 7:52:38 AM |
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Matt, you probably need to....
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| drop off your game stats at H R Block. The reason no play-off information has been posted is because Keith is re-scoring every game of the season for the 30th time praying to god for a blocked PAT and a fumble. |
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Posted - 12/14/2006 2:34:17 PM |
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HR Block pulls an allnighter
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Week 10 McNabb's 12-26-222-1-0 passing stats were actually 12-26-257-2-0 (matt says this was a later revision by the nfl); Week 1 Eagles DF was missing 1 sack; Week 5 Broncos DF was marked with 4 sacks instead of 2; Week 7 Jay Feely was missing 1 PAT.
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Posted - 12/15/2006 8:47:39 AM |
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Good luck playoff teams!
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| Sorry you got robbed again Bachman. |
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Bunch
Assistant Coach
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Posted - 12/15/2006 3:21:26 PM |
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Rule proposal
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| I feel strongly enough about this situation that I will not be in the league next year if we don't pass this rule. I mentioned this in the past but I didn't follow up on it which is my fault. No excuse from me about not making the playoffs; if Keith has more points then he deserves to be in. The method that has taken place, and has also taken place in the past is complete bullshit. The rule proposal is this: by kickoff of the first game of Week 2, Week 1 scores for your team are final. Which means you have a week and a little less late in the season to check your stats and move forward. This way we won't have Keith and his little squirrel, Kent, going back and checking stats the day of the first playoff game. By the way, I didn't go back and check my stats for the season, only last week. I simply don't believe in it and I also had better things to do with my time. Good luck for those that made the playoffs, and think about whether or not you want me in the league next year. If not, fine, we'll move on. If so, then this is a new rule, plain and simple. Merry Christmas Bitches. |
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Maulers
Football Freak
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Posted - 12/15/2006 4:06:56 PM |
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About the rule proposal
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I agree that we need to do something, but there are many factors involved. The NFL frequently revises stats, sometimes several weeks after the game itself has resolved. What do we do in that instance?
With the new prevalence of Thursday night games, that actually gives us far less than a week to resolve the following week's stats. Is three or four days enough to validate an entire week? Then there are all of the stats which require fairly extensive research, such as blocked FG's. These are not shown on the NFL page, they have to be tracked down manually through the complete play-by-play. This is a pain in the ass, and not something you can do in a short period of time. Should we just do away with those categories?
The ultimate responsibility lies with each individual owner to track their games. Not everyone has time every single week to do this. We all have periods of activity that limit how much time we can devote. So if someone is on vacation for a week and cannot research their stats, does that make those stats somehow invalid? The gold standard has always been that the facts are the facts, even if those facts are validated somewhere down the road.
I would love to see this issue resolved, but I think we need to be careful about how we do so. |
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Posted - 12/15/2006 4:08:55 PM |
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agree 100%
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| point totals should be "certified" before kick-off the following week. Any NFL corrections that come out are usually within days of the game so 1 week should be ample time. No one should ever have to review 13 weeks of stats. Period. |
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Posted - 12/15/2006 4:09:41 PM |
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Holy Shit, I agree with the Bunch
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| Considering that the Bass are always in the playoffs I may have no business commenting on this. (Though it looks like I will be making an early exit this year, I hate you Kent) I would be pissed if I were eliminated due to scoring errors of 8 weeks ago. Who the hell wants to recalculate week 2 stats, I don't even want to wrap my wife's christmas presents. Happy holidays to all, Kent go to Hell. |
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Posted - 12/15/2006 10:28:25 PM |
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Proposed 2007 Bill RG4471: Mobile Audit and Total Testimony (M.A.T.T.) Act
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i think that there a number of factors to consider with this issue and we should be careful to not create a worse situation by overreacting. that being said, we can definitely move in the direction where this scenario does not take place in the midnight hour.
one thing that absolutely must remain in place, though, is the gold standard: the real scores are based on real stats. if we compromise on that then we lose the legitimacy of the standings.
in addition, the notion of "verifying scores" goes far beyond just your own game. we are all vying for playoff spots and it is unrealistic to expect everyone to verify every other game in the league, every week. how are you supposed to know that a Week 3 matchup/score between two other teams will affect your own fate come the playoffs? and are we supposed to legitimize a score that is flat out incorrect, just because it was a blowout and the scores weren't adequately verified, or worse perhaps one person didn't notice an error while the other person looked the other way? that "remedy" seems far, far more unjust to me.
however, having the deadline be just before the playoffs (this has been in the written rules the entire time) leaves a bad taste all around. we should move it back a week so that going into the final regular season game everything is locked down and everyone knows exactly where they stand in the playoff hunt. if any stat errors are discovered after the Week 14 kickoff, those would not affect team YTD's for the purposes of playoff tiebreakers.
do i hear a "*harumpf*"? |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 1:33:35 AM |
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Scores
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If an error occurs, it should be ratified by the weeks end. Iagree. It has never happened to me, but if by week 14, I went back to week 2 (when I had 12 weeks to resolve) ...too bad,me .We all watch, and keep up with football too much to play ignorant. I know about the TD that was given to McNabb THAT week. The lateral pass off to whomever, it was all over the news. To act like you found it with a CSI comb is wacky.
Honestly, it's like sandbagging. But, whatever, I'm playing for 7th! But Matt. I'm with ya. Scores went in. Brackets should've been in on Tuesday, and probabaly would've if (no offense Ragnarok admins) it was the Monks 5 pts behind in 7th. .....think about it...... |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 7:15:29 AM |
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I like to hide my stats......
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| in the crack of a turkey. |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 8:09:43 AM |
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Kent's quote about
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"stats that require fairly extensive research such as blocked FG's"...
Watch the game that yer defense is in.
We should go back and watch the tapes of that 70's Dolphins undefeated season. I'm sure we can find a blocked FG sometime that season, or a holding call to repeal a TD causing them to lose a game here or there. I mean what the fuck... |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 8:13:32 AM |
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WAIT! I got it!
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| No more weekly games. Just total points after 16 weeks. Top scorer wins. |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 9:54:40 AM |
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Clarification
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I was in no way saying Keith was cheating,with the sandbagging comment. I was kind of chiming in tongue in cheek, though I do sympathize with Matt. I apologize to Kent and Keith if I sounded like I was pointing fingers. If you look at the times of the posts, I abit wee drunk.
Basically, other than the turkey stats in the ass, I was "here,hereing" previous posts. You should all know that I endorse all the rules, I just would hate to see Matt leave over points found twelve weeks prior.
Peace out! |
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Posted - 12/16/2006 4:12:53 PM |
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i have to agree with matt.
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| but i also think that there is a" gold standard" to be adheared to as well. lets face it, football is not perfect. the nfl is not perfect. in fact, i think that the reality of OUR football league is more important than the nfl. this is something that brings 12 fellas together of different backrounds, tastes and sexual orientation(kent) to talk, jest, and comune together throughout the year. its special, its nerdy and its great. as well, we all would not have such differing opinons on how to move forward on small or large issues such as this one if we all didn't love it. yes, it sometimes demands alittle more time than one might have, but so what. so, i propose a more reasonable compromise. every owner is responsable for his teams stats. each owner has 3(three) tuesdays after game one of the year to certify those stats, and no changes could be made after that third tuesday. continue to roll those weeks, week 2 stats certified on tuesday of week 6,(and so on)with week fourteen being the final cut off. that in my mind, is enough time for the nfl to make any changes nessisary. it is enough time for all of us to check any changes. lets have fun and also, little reason and compation, maybe even alittle forsight to know whats really the right thing to do. |
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