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that trade needs to be explained |
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Hermit Master
Headbanger
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Posted - 10/19/2014 10:22:54 AM |
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that trade needs to be explained
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if you cancel out the K's and HC's, it is a 7-for-7 player trade. of the seven players offered by the Wolverines, three are injured and aren't even seeing the field.
how do those injured players have any value in the trade? this needs explanation.
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Posted - 10/19/2014 12:27:27 PM |
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Sure....
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1. Both of our teams were sucking. 2. He and ranked each of the positions based upon what we both think will happen the rest of the season (assumed the injured players would return):
QB 1 Philip Rivers QB 2 Drew Brees QB 3 Matthew Stafford QB 4 Carson Palmer
RB 1 Alfred Morris RB 2 Reggie Bush RB 3 Doug Martin RB 4 Mark Ingram RB 5 Lamar Miller RB 6 DeAngelo Williams RB 7 Toby Gerhart RB 8 Roy Helu RB 9 Lorenzo Taliaferro ®
WR 1 DeSean Jackson WR 2 Jeremy Maclin WR 3 Andre Johnson WR 4 Larry Fitzgerald WR 5 Emmanuel Sanders WR 6 Brandon LaFell WR 7 Malcom Floyd WR 8 Michael Crabtree WR 9 Wes Welker WR 10 Greg Jennings WR 11 Harry Douglas
TE 1 Vernon Davis TE 2 Dwayne Allen TE 3 Kyle Rudolph TE 4 Coby Fleener
DF/ST 1 Denver Broncos DF/ST 2 Seattle Seahawks DF/ST 3 Baltimore Ravens DF/ST 4 Green Bay Packers
K 1 Stephen Gostkowski K 2 Adam Vinatieri K 3 Robbie Gould K 4 Mike Nugent
HC 1 Pete Carroll HC 2 Marvin Lewis
3. Then he and I did a snake draft to divide up our players to try to even out our point production for the rest of the season to try to get us back to competitive. The trade was the result of the that draft. (WE did have to the make the second trade Ingram and Martin to allow for the injuries so Shawn had starters this week...And to make allowances for WR LaFell because he already played this week.)
We both find this a fair trade and method for the bottom two teams to make to try to save our seasons.
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Posted - 10/19/2014 12:39:54 PM |
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with the trade...
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I like the trade also. iv had to sign 6 to 8 players from free agent market do to injuries. My WR's were well below avg. and Steve's RB were all hurt. thought it was a fair trade to help both of are teams try to be competitive for the rest off the season. WE need to be perfect with 2 victory points the rest of the way just to have a chance for the playoffs. That's why the trade was made. |
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Posted - 10/19/2014 12:54:09 PM |
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Wow
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That's a lot of research just to make a shitty trade. Good luck guys! |
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Posted - 10/19/2014 1:09:11 PM |
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Desparation Make strange Bedfellows
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When you have 4 VP COMBINED, you need to do something. |
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Posted - 10/19/2014 1:24:41 PM |
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so if i pick a bunch of shitty and injured players
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can you and i do a draft in order to set up a trade? that would satisfy the criteria for a balanced trade, right? |
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Posted - 10/19/2014 1:31:18 PM |
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You asked me for explanation...
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...And I gave it.
SO let me ask for one. Why is this trade unfair? |
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Posted - 10/19/2014 1:48:56 PM |
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Mark up the players on this List
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Mark up the players on this list as Injured and Shitty:
QB 1 Philip Rivers QB 2 Drew Brees QB 3 Matthew Stafford QB 4 Carson Palmer
RB 1 Alfred Morris RB 2 Reggie Bush RB 3 Doug Martin RB 4 Mark Ingram RB 5 Lamar Miller RB 6 DeAngelo Williams RB 7 Toby Gerhart RB 8 Roy Helu RB 9 Lorenzo Taliaferro ®
WR 1 DeSean Jackson WR 2 Jeremy Maclin WR 3 Andre Johnson WR 4 Larry Fitzgerald WR 5 Emmanuel Sanders WR 6 Brandon LaFell WR 7 Malcom Floyd WR 8 Michael Crabtree WR 9 Wes Welker WR 10 Greg Jennings WR 11 Harry Douglas
TE 1 Vernon Davis TE 2 Dwayne Allen TE 3 Kyle Rudolph TE 4 Coby Fleener
DF/ST 1 Denver Broncos DF/ST 2 Seattle Seahawks DF/ST 3 Baltimore Ravens DF/ST 4 Green Bay Packers
K 1 Stephen Gostkowski K 2 Adam Vinatieri K 3 Robbie Gould K 4 Mike Nugent
HC 1 Pete Carroll HC 2 Marvin Lewis |
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Posted - 10/20/2014 5:41:48 AM |
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3 of your 7 offered players are OUT, Wolverines
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they aren't even playing football. those are shitty. there you go. |
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Posted - 10/20/2014 11:59:37 AM |
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Hermit...
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You are acting like these three players will never play again. That is not the case as each of those player are on a week to week status:
RB DeAngelo Williams - High Ankle Sprain
RB Toby Gerhart - Foot Sprain (He was scheduled return as starter last week, but reinjured the foot in practice last Wednesday. After Robinsons game yesterday his value may be near zero, but that happened AFTER we made the trade and we should not be held accountable for that.)
WR Harry Douglas - Deep Bruise on his foot.
As you can see NONE of those injuries are season ending nor serious. Shawn was willing to take the risk that these guys will have value for the rest of the season in order to improve two starting positions:
TE Dwayne Allen improved from Coby Fleener WR DeSean Jackson improved from Greg Jennings
I was willing to give my Number 1 receiver and my backup TE (that was out performing Vernon Davis and should have been starting) in order to improve my RBs.
You are looking at this short term, one week, he and I made it with long term in mind. We are just doing what we should be doing as owners, attempting to make our team as competitive as possible for the rest of the season (and for both us this season that has been a real challenge with 4 VP combined...lol).
If you take an objective look at this trade with a long-term thinking, it is a fair trade that should stand.
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Posted - 10/24/2014 12:12:00 PM |
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I assume this is a dead issue
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Keith, can you give a final ruling here as commish so we put thus behind us.
Thanks, Steve |
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Posted - 10/24/2014 8:24:04 PM |
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By this I mean...
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...the trade with Shawn and I. Just want to make sure we are good. I have held off making other moves until I know. |
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Posted - 10/28/2014 9:38:59 PM |
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yep, itsa dead issue
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>blamo< |
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Posted - 11/18/2014 7:42:39 PM |
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Moral victories
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Where's my half vp? |
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Posted - 11/20/2014 1:12:10 PM |
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Seriously commish - where's my VP
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Don't you get 1/2 VP for a tie if both HC lose? |
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